USER CREATED with NO visor? [SOLVED]

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USER CREATED with NO visor? [SOLVED]

Post by x77x » Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:01 pm

NHL14 - PS3

im trying to make my user created veteran players have NO visor in game...
you select NO visor, but in game they have one anyway...
so im guessing it checks something else to see if they have to wear the mandatory visor

ive added a draft year, added number of NHL games... still nothing
im guessing it checks the previous NHL stats... where in the database are previous NHL stats?


obviously NHLViewNG will add more features like equipment selection and whatnot, but one thing id like to added is the ability to add/change a players career stats


anyone got any ideas how to get a user created player id 16030 - 16xxx with NO visor in the NHL?
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Re: USER CREATED with NO visor?

Post by Artem » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:26 pm

This sounds like a bug in the game rather that NHLView NG, which cannot edit visor information yet. I never actually paid attention during gameplay, but at least in create a player mode if I choose no visor, it's not there.

Also, this is definitely not controlled by previous stats or any other factors. It seems to be a bug in the game if that is really the case.

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Re: USER CREATED with NO visor?

Post by x77x » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:28 pm

no its an NHL rule, so "rookies" wear a visor...

user created players have NO nhl career games

so im thinking if you edit a players career stats, the visor will disapear


ive tried a bunch of stuff in nhl database editor, no luck so far, but i dont know where the career stats are kept

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Re: USER CREATED with NO visor?

Post by x77x » Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:34 pm

once equipment and appearance are added to nhlviewng i can narrow it down a lil more

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Re: USER CREATED with NO visor?

Post by x77x » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:29 pm

how about putting a USER created custom face on an edited default player?
(that way i could have a user created face with NO VISOR)


if i use the custom head ID 21100 on a current player, he just gets blue skin... no facial hair ect...


all i ever wanted was NO visor is that too much to ask!?

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Re: USER CREATED with NO visor?

Post by Artem » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:07 am

Just found out there there is a list of 1806 player ids hard-coded in the game that have visor exemption. So that might be why you are having the problem. I'm attaching the spreadsheet with these IDs, but NHLView is unable to do anything to fix this if that's indeed the issue.
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Re: USER CREATED with NO visor?

Post by x77x » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:13 am

so in order to have no visor i must use one of those ids and edit the player


so it is NOT possible to have a user created player with no visor because the custom id start at 16030...


now.... how do i get user created heads on to one of those ids?

if i use a user created id number, i just get blue skin
if i use someone elses head id, it works fine

but i dont want someone elses head!

i want a user created head on visor exempt id player =)

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Re: USER CREATED with NO visor?

Post by x77x » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:15 am

any other clues to your list?

cuz ive seen stuff in the database that looks similar to your list...


maybe the same list is in the database and therefor can be changes to include ids 16030 - 160xx

>=)

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Re: USER CREATED with NO visor?

Post by x77x » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:32 pm

BOOYAH!!! SUCCESS!!!

the zkcJ tab in the database editor is the same updated list, i changed one of the users to the user created id 16030
and...


NOW MY USER CREATED PLAYER HAS NO VISOR!!!!


thank you artem =)

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Re: USER CREATED with NO visor?

Post by x77x » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:42 am

makes me wonder... if the stats are on the bluray, then maybe they are in the database as well...

what do they look like on the cd?

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Re: USER CREATED with NO visor? [SOLVED]

Post by Artem » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:07 am

Good catch, I didn't notice that this table was also present in exhibition rosters.

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Re: USER CREATED with NO visor? [SOLVED]

Post by x77x » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:28 pm

*NOTE*

i download the newest online rosters... and my visor came back in season mode!

so i used the database editor on the newest roster save and add the custom ids back on the list
and my visor disappearred again =)

SO...
THE GAME READS THE EXEMPT LIST FROM THE LATEST SAVE FOR ALL MODES

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